Minutes:
8. Decision of the Sub-Committee
The application is granted on the following terms and conditions.
Licensable activities and times permitted:
Plans
Accepted amendment to licensing plan in accordance with drawing number 7482-08 revision B dated 31 May 2017 which accompanied the application.
Live Music
Sunday – Thursday 10:00-23:00
Friday and Saturday 10:00-00:00
Recorded music
Sunday - Thursday 10:00-23:00
Friday 10:00-00:00
Saturday 10:00-00:45
Late Night Refreshment
Sunday - Thursday 23:00-00:30
Friday - Saturday 23:00-02:30
Films
Sunday -Thursday 08.00-00:30
Fridays and Saturdays 08:00-02:30
Non-standardtimings
Christmas and New Year as in application
Mandatory conditions:
As provided in the Licensing Act 2003 and Licensing Act 2003 (Mandatory Licensing Conditions) Order 2010 and the Licensing Act 2003 (Mandatory Conditions) Order 2014.
General Conditions
1. No customers carrying bottles, either sealed or open, shall be permitted to enter the premises at any time that the premises are open.
Other Conditions
Prevention of Crime and Disorder
7. No new customers shall be permitted entry to the premises after midnight. Re-admission to existing customers to retrieve personal belongings and those who have gone outside to smoke is permitted
Prevention of Public Nuisance
9. No deliveries of consumables to the premises shall take place between 19:00hrs and 07:00hrs.
11. No licensable activities or consumption of alcohol will take place outside after 23:00hrs.
17. The noise limiting device installed shall be retained and maintained in good working order and all amplified regulated entertainment shall be channelled through the device and shall not exceed a noise level determined by Environmental Health Officers from New Forest District Council. The maximum noise level set by Environmental Health Officers from New Forest District Council shall be reviewed as required by Environmental Health Officers from New Forest District Council.
18. The noise limiting device shall be sealed to avoid tampering.
19. A minimum of two SIA trained door staff will be employed at the premises on Friday and Saturday nights from 22:00hrs and will remain on duty until 30 minutes after the premises are closed to the public and to aid with the quiet dispersal of customers.
Protection of Children from harm
21. Notices informing customers of the proof of age scheme in operation shall be prominently displayed at the premises.
9. Reasons for the Decision
The Sub-Committee considered the application for a variation in the premises licence along with the evidence, both written and oral, supplied by the Applicant and all those who had made relevant representations.
In reaching its decision, the Sub-Committee has had regard to the Home Office Guidance issued under section 182 of the Licensing Act 2003, the Council's own Statement of Licensing Policy and the Human Rights Act 1998.
At the hearing, the Sub-Committee carefully listened to all the evidence that was provided and considered what action, if any, was appropriate for the promotion of the four licensing objectives namely, the prevention of crime and disorder; public safety; the prevention of public nuisance; and the protection of children from harm.
The main areas of concern raised by those objecting to the application related to the following:
· Increase in Anti-social behaviour (ASB) caused by alcohol;
· Noise issues and disturbance to neighbours in a residential area;
· Noise/ASB in the rear garden of the premises by those drinking and/or smoking;
· Increase in music related disturbance;
· Fears that the venue will become more popular and therefore increase the risk of further disturbances and incidents for nearby residents;
· The addition of live music until the early hours will appeal to a younger clientele, leading to increase in problems;
· Additional crime and disorder in the face of reduced police presence to deal.
The Sub-Committee took into account the objections from the Responsible Authorities namely Hampshire Police and New Forest District Council’s Environmental Health.
The Sub-Committee carefully considered objections from Hampshire Police made by PC Conway and noted that the objections centred on historical issues primarily relating to alcohol misuse. The Sub-Committee noted that the premises had been closed for nearly three years and would be opening under new management. The Sub-Committee took into account and gave weight to the recommendation by Hampshire Police that conditions relating to Challenge 25 policy; the requirement for SIA staff; due diligence on training; and the requirement for staff to play an active role in the dispersal of crowds were appropriate conditions in promoting the licensing objectives. The Sub-Committee noted that some of the conditions which were recommended to remain in place by the police were incorporated by the Applicant through proposed additional conditions dated 13th May 2019.
The Sub-Committee considered recommendations from the Council’s Environmental Health Officer and accepted that noise limiters are an appropriate measure to keep noise levels at reasonable levels and that the condition requiring noise limiters should remain part of the license. The Sub-Committee considered whether installing noise limiters was cost inhibitive as suggested by the Applicant in its submissions but accepted the evidence from the Environmental Health Officer that the cost was reasonable and not disproportionate.
The Sub-Committee was sympathetic to the views of the objectors, but noted that some of the concerns related to historical anti-social behaviour on the site when it was being run by different tenants. The Sub-Committee was guided by the need to deal with each application on a case by case basis and in light of the licence conditions put forward by the Applicant.
The Sub-Committee heard and considered submissions by the Applicant’s legal representative Mr Domleo who outlined the intention for the Sail Inn to take a different approach to how the pub was run previously. Mr Domleo stated that the Sail Inn would be a family friendly venue with more emphasis on food and managed by an experienced Designated Premises Supervisor (DPS) with less emphasis on low priced alcohol.
The Sub-Committee heard from Mr Smith, the DPS, who stated that there were no plans to open the premises beyond 2300hrs on most week nights or beyond midnight most Fridays and Saturdays. He also stated that he would be living on the premises.
The Sub-Committee also noted that the Applicant had offered to include conditions on the licence to mitigate the effects of proposed extended hours. These conditions included stopping entry of new customers into the premises after midnight, customers being prohibited from using external areas after 2300hrs, regular boundary noise checks when regulated entertainment was being provided (including live and recorded music). The Sub-Committee accepted these conditions as appropriate with minor amendments.
The Sub-Committee carefully considered requests from the objectors in relation to noise nuisance. In particular, Mr Lee raised concerns in relation to noise nuisance due to the proximity of his property to the premises. The Sub-Committee considered that a condition requiring noise limiting equipment would be an appropriate measure to keep the noise levels low. However, the Sub-Committee was aware that this measure could not deal with live music noise levels, but took into consideration the Applicant’s submission that live music would not be played frequently (mainly limited to weekends). The Sub-Committee also considered the effect of the Live Music Act 2012 and the Deregulation Act 2015 which suspended the requirement for a license allowing the playing of live and recorded music between 0800 and 2300.
The Sub-Committee noted other objections concerning staff working excessive hours and considered that there was specific legislation to deal with such matters and this was not something which the Sub-Committee could take into account.
Accordingly, the Sub-Committee was of the view that the appropriate steps for the promotion of the licensing objectives was to grant the application subject to the above conditions.
Should there be any concerns in the future regarding operation of the premises, the Licensing Act 2003 provides a statutory mechanism for any person to call the premises licence in for review.
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